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president obama is leading about the handling of taxes. president obama leads mr. romney on nearly every issue polled including standing up for the middle class, foreign policy and medicare. the only issue where romney has an advantage is on the budget and on federal spending where he leads 50 to 45. >>> in what's considered a bit of a preview for the upcoming debates, president obama and mitt romney were both asked about foreign policy in the middle east including about the u.s. relationship with israel. >> the president's decision not to meet with bebe netanyahu, the president of israel, when he's here is a mistake and it sends a message throughout the middle east that somehow we distanced ourselves from our friends and i think the exact opposite approach is what's necessary. >> well, look, i have conversations with prime minister netanyahu all the time and i understand and share prime minister netanyahu's insinstenc that they should not get a nuclear weapon. i feel an obligation, not pressure but obligation to make sure that we're in close consultation with the
president obama is leading about the handling of taxes. president obama leads mr. romney on nearly every issue polled including standing up for the middle class, foreign policy and medicare. the only issue where romney has an advantage is on the budget and on federal spending where he leads 50 to 45. >>> in what's considered a bit of a preview for the upcoming debates, president obama and mitt romney were both asked about foreign policy in the middle east including about the u.s....
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obama's first job is to protect american lives. and what obama said and rightly so was what needed to be said in hopes of calming the situation. that's what a president does. so the reaction to romney that he's not ready to be commander in chief i think is based on the sense that he doesn't seem to have a sense of the wake or the substance of the moment. he spoke as if he had no sense of that. so yes that will stick with him. >> eliot: as well as the factual error that he attacked the president for having made a statement that in fact, was made before the ambassador had been assassinated, killed and therefore, there was as you say, still the hope that sending that tweet out rightly or wrongly could calm the waters. after the death the statement would have sounded different. >> part of it was the heat of the moment thing. but the next morning when he would have had a chance to walk it back, he didn't. he repatrioted the criticism. >> eliot: mitt romney's approach is to double down. usually with other people's money. this time with h
obama's first job is to protect american lives. and what obama said and rightly so was what needed to be said in hopes of calming the situation. that's what a president does. so the reaction to romney that he's not ready to be commander in chief i think is based on the sense that he doesn't seem to have a sense of the wake or the substance of the moment. he spoke as if he had no sense of that. so yes that will stick with him. >> eliot: as well as the factual error that he attacked the...
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of ten battleground states, president obama leads in all of them but north carolina. so this does not help romney in any of those states and the nbc, "the wall street journal," marist polls show that today. >> i want to show you something mr. romney said to george stephanopoulos that shows i would suggest his hypocrisy on domestic affairs. >> i think the challenge in the debate is that the president tends to how shall i say, say things that aren't true, and in attacking his opponents, i looked at prior debates. >> sorry, jared, it is the president who has trouble with the truth? >> right. so that's a real distraction, listening to the conversation with michael and jimmy and yourself, i was sitting here struck by the fact we actually have real problems, both in our country and abroad. and when i hear a line like that from a presidential candidate, it sounds like gamesmanship at a time when people need to hear the two candidates discuss the issues. i would argue the president has tried to do that. these are campaigns. people are going to obviously be partison. y you hav
of ten battleground states, president obama leads in all of them but north carolina. so this does not help romney in any of those states and the nbc, "the wall street journal," marist polls show that today. >> i want to show you something mr. romney said to george stephanopoulos that shows i would suggest his hypocrisy on domestic affairs. >> i think the challenge in the debate is that the president tends to how shall i say, say things that aren't true, and in attacking...
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double digits. 11 points, obama 47%, romney 36%. it's sort of -- it's one of these things, is this see meant drying? you know, there's still the debates. we were at this point in time i could argue and look at our poll and see comparisons to 2004, it is striking how similar the place that mitt romney is in now and john kerry was eight years ago. and john kerry made a move at the debates and this became a very close election in 2004. that opportunity is there for mitt romney. but right now, he is behind. there's no other way to describe. >> i would quickly add to chuck's point, mitt romney on the numbers, economy, right track/wrong track, you would think he would be winning this. >> i talk to republicans who say he should be winning -- he should be ahead let alone not even. here he is behind. >> you would say the republican is winning. s. >> thank you all very much. thanks to mike isikoff for all of your reporting. joining me, john se knew knew, former chief of staff to george h.w. bush, senior adviser to the romney campaign. >> how
double digits. 11 points, obama 47%, romney 36%. it's sort of -- it's one of these things, is this see meant drying? you know, there's still the debates. we were at this point in time i could argue and look at our poll and see comparisons to 2004, it is striking how similar the place that mitt romney is in now and john kerry was eight years ago. and john kerry made a move at the debates and this became a very close election in 2004. that opportunity is there for mitt romney. but right now, he...
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this will give president obama another option. we already know unmanned drones flew over libya looking for intelligence on who may have been responsible for the attacks on benghazi, looking at al qaeda-related militant groups, where they are located, where are the encampment, the strongholds? they will gather the intelligence. and two options on the table. libyan forces could try to go after some of these targets once they're identified, or possibly now, the president has the option. he could order those ships to fire their tomahawk missiles against those targets. the president said, justice will be done. now some of the options being put into place. john? >> so barbara, drones are looking for them, possible special forces action if we find them or tomahawk missiles. do you have a sense of any time frame here? >> reporter: we believe, you know, the first ship probably already, frankly, within range of any target, the libyan coast. we know that it was very close by in port in the mediterranean. second ship should be there within a
this will give president obama another option. we already know unmanned drones flew over libya looking for intelligence on who may have been responsible for the attacks on benghazi, looking at al qaeda-related militant groups, where they are located, where are the encampment, the strongholds? they will gather the intelligence. and two options on the table. libyan forces could try to go after some of these targets once they're identified, or possibly now, the president has the option. he could...
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>> first of all, president obama and the u.s. administration have repeatedly said that israel has the right to act by itself against any threat to defend itself. and i think that that remains our position. and for me, the issue is -- as the prime minister of a country that is threatened with annihilation with a regime that is racing a brutal regime in tehran that is racing to develop nuclear bombs for that end, obviously, we cannot delegate the job of stopping iran, if all else fails, to someone else. that was the main point that i was saying there. it was directed at the general international community. a lot of leaders calling me telling me, don't do it. it's not necessary. you know, the danger of acting is much greater than not acting. and i always say the danger of not acting in time is much greater because iran with nuclear weapons would mean that the kind of fanaticism that you see storming your embassies would have a nuclear weapon. don't let these fanatics have nuclear weapons. >> prime minister, you were upset with this
>> first of all, president obama and the u.s. administration have repeatedly said that israel has the right to act by itself against any threat to defend itself. and i think that that remains our position. and for me, the issue is -- as the prime minister of a country that is threatened with annihilation with a regime that is racing a brutal regime in tehran that is racing to develop nuclear bombs for that end, obviously, we cannot delegate the job of stopping iran, if all else fails, to...
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president obama heads into a very challenging period with the middle east crisis. as tensions escalate with the israelis, word that the u.s. is not supporting their ability or imperative to strike iran when they see fit, this is also going to challenge president obama. it's also going to challenge mitt romney, because he's friends with the prime minister and he's put in a corner about whether or not he supporting the israelis' right to strike when they see fit. it's a real test for both candidates in many levels in many different areas of the middle east. i think we'll see the polls fluctuate again. >> it's a testator voters to stay engaged and see what happens as these debates come up and we learn more about character and tone in this race. thank you very much, a.b. >>> next on "news nation" -- >> we must be very clear what we are fighting in this moment is democracy itself. >> stheez election changes should be implemented in a what to increase, not impede, participation. >> they're calling it the last stand. right now the state supreme court in pennsylvania is he
president obama heads into a very challenging period with the middle east crisis. as tensions escalate with the israelis, word that the u.s. is not supporting their ability or imperative to strike iran when they see fit, this is also going to challenge president obama. it's also going to challenge mitt romney, because he's friends with the prime minister and he's put in a corner about whether or not he supporting the israelis' right to strike when they see fit. it's a real test for both...
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so, president obama, mitt romney, 26% approve. 48% disapprove. those are obviously not good numbers for mitt romney. i'll get to rick on that in a moment. but 45% approve, is that a big win or no? >> look, i think those are good numbers. anytime in polling where you ask a question and said what do you think of obama, what do you think of romney? people default to their partisan position. the real question is where are they breaking? where's the advantage? the differential. how does it break down on the way, what you see internals of that poll. democrats highly supportive of president obama. republicans, very lukewarm on romney. that kind of intensity is a problem. the differential, thatst a problem for romney. the reason is because what we saw from mitt romney is something in kindergarten, engage brain before opening mouth thing. you can't play the kind of talk first shoot later think afterwards style of diplomacy. it's not what works for commander in chief. >> rick, you hear 26% for mitt romney, approval. that's got to make you scared. >> sure.
so, president obama, mitt romney, 26% approve. 48% disapprove. those are obviously not good numbers for mitt romney. i'll get to rick on that in a moment. but 45% approve, is that a big win or no? >> look, i think those are good numbers. anytime in polling where you ask a question and said what do you think of obama, what do you think of romney? people default to their partisan position. the real question is where are they breaking? where's the advantage? the differential. how does it...
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obama 50%, romney 43%. florida and virginia the same. obama 49%, romney 44%. if obama takes those three states, that's it. >> if you look at the national polls post both conventions, there seems to be undeniably the up tick for president. if you look at the poll -- 10% more democrats than republicans. they think it's somewhat out of balance they do acknowledge the president is ahead in ohio. you can see this. the president got some bouts. we can argue over how much. and here's the thing for mitt romney with 50 days left you're going into the last 50 days of the campaign. you can change one state. if you're good, z five points is not so much. but if you have to change four or five points in florida, three points here, two points there, then it gets complicated. he needs a national change in the dynamic which means he needs a very strong debate performance. >> there will be three debates and candy you'll be moderating. do those debates really, really change the final few weeks of a campaign? >> they certainly can. sometimes you see that it's already set. but the
obama 50%, romney 43%. florida and virginia the same. obama 49%, romney 44%. if obama takes those three states, that's it. >> if you look at the national polls post both conventions, there seems to be undeniably the up tick for president. if you look at the poll -- 10% more democrats than republicans. they think it's somewhat out of balance they do acknowledge the president is ahead in ohio. you can see this. the president got some bouts. we can argue over how much. and here's the thing...
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the white house trying to explain what president obama meant to say. spokesman tommy bidder didn't help a white house effort. he said the word ally doesn't amount to much. and call the term ally a legal term of art. for the record, the oxford english dictionary defines the term as a person or organization that cooperates with or helps another in a particular activity. not much art. in that, a simple word. not necessarily a term. for the president's enjoyment, enemy means a hostile nation or its armed forces or citizens. meanwhile from the white house come obama campaign, much of the mainstream media, and even some republicans going after governor romney's criticism of the initial apologies released by the cairo embassy. the very same words that were disavowed by president obama himself and removed from the embassy website. many of governor romney's supporters are wondering why more republicans are failing to voice their support. where were his surrogates? undeterred and unhesitatingly, governor romney has kept up the pressure on president obama, critic
the white house trying to explain what president obama meant to say. spokesman tommy bidder didn't help a white house effort. he said the word ally doesn't amount to much. and call the term ally a legal term of art. for the record, the oxford english dictionary defines the term as a person or organization that cooperates with or helps another in a particular activity. not much art. in that, a simple word. not necessarily a term. for the president's enjoyment, enemy means a hostile nation or its...
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president obama is not a bad guy. no. president obama is not a bad guy. he is good at giving great speeches. he is just really bad at creating jobs. [applause] here is the problem. when you think that the road to success and prosperity is more borrowing, more spending, more taxing, off more regulating, a government-centered society with a government-run economy, these are the kinds of results that we get. if we want the next four years to be any different than the last four years, which need a different president. [applause] now, four years ago, president obama said if you do not have a record to run on, then you pay your opponent as someone that people should run from. guess what? that is exactly what he is doing today. so, let's take a look at where we are. we got some pretty disappointing news just today. you know, we learned today that for every person who got a job, nearly four people stop looking for a job. they gave up. we cannot keep doing this. our economy needs to correct just 150,000 jobs every month just to keep up with the growth of our popul
president obama is not a bad guy. no. president obama is not a bad guy. he is good at giving great speeches. he is just really bad at creating jobs. [applause] here is the problem. when you think that the road to success and prosperity is more borrowing, more spending, more taxing, off more regulating, a government-centered society with a government-run economy, these are the kinds of results that we get. if we want the next four years to be any different than the last four years, which need a...
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> that's president obama now heading back from andrews air force base where he and secretary of state hillary clinton just attended the somber transfer of remains ceremony for u.s. ambassador chris stevens and the three other americans killed this week in libya. ♪ >> we welcome home for the final time, ambassador chris stevens, mr. sean smith, mr. glen doherty and mr. tyrone woods. >> to the families of our fallen colleagues, i offer our most heartfelt condolences and deepest gratitude. >> they didn't simply embrace the american ideal, they lived it. they embodied it. the courage. the hope. and yes, the idealism. that fundamental american belief that we can leave this world a little better than before. that's who they were. and that's who we are. >> four men are now under arrest for tuesday's deadly attack on the u.s. consulate. we'll get to what's happening in the middle east in a minute. first let's bring in former ambassador mark ginsberg who knew ambassador stevens we know the intelligence community is very small, so we're sorry for your life. >> thank you. the fact of
♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> that's president obama now heading back from andrews air force base where he and secretary of state hillary clinton just attended the somber transfer of remains ceremony for u.s. ambassador chris stevens and the three other americans killed this week in libya. ♪ >> we welcome home for the final time, ambassador chris stevens, mr. sean smith, mr. glen doherty and mr. tyrone woods. >> to the families of our fallen colleagues, i offer our most heartfelt...
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>> joining me now is traveling press secretary for the obama campaign. great to hav you here >> goodmorning. >>t tmivedy that if we need to interrupt and jump out of this because mitt romney will be sitting down with brian williams. so i just want to give you fair warning that we may have to jump over tohat. but as we have heard, everybody has been tough on the predent oue idt not having any by lot ral melateral meetin planned and here's what he had to say. >> he's not doing the jobf being president, he's doi the job of candidate. president obama has deced at a ti grave csis thate res um toaha he can take the time not to be president for the next six weeks and let it just play itself out p. >> as we look back over history in 2004, george w. busheld five bilateral meetings at the u.n., last year president obama had 13 one-on-one meetings. just usi the esident'n plf inrot year, is this a missed opportunity to meet with the current leaders at the u.n. and also allow republicans the sclans to hammer him on foreign policy which was one of his strengths as pre
>> joining me now is traveling press secretary for the obama campaign. great to hav you here >> goodmorning. >>t tmivedy that if we need to interrupt and jump out of this because mitt romney will be sitting down with brian williams. so i just want to give you fair warning that we may have to jump over tohat. but as we have heard, everybody has been tough on the predent oue idt not having any by lot ral melateral meetin planned and here's what he had to say. >> he's not...
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and of course, we assured president obama that we will be keen and we will not permit any such event, any such occurrence in our country against the embassy territories in the future. >> woodruff: today, in washington, secretary of state clinton called the video "disgusting and reprehensible." >> it appears to have a deeply cynical purpose, to denigrate a great religion and to provoke rage. but as i said yesterday, there is no justification, none at all, for responding to this video with violence. >> woodruff: clinton also sought again to distance the united states' government from the film and its maker. the associated press reported that he's been identified as a coptic christian living in california with a checkered legal past. actors in the film said that they were duped, that the blasphemous and offensive dialogue was later dubbed in. and not just muslims, but coptic christians in cairo denounced the film and its apparent intent. >> ( translated ): if it is proven that there is a copt that participated in the making of this movie, the church 100% refuses him. >> woodruff: there w
and of course, we assured president obama that we will be keen and we will not permit any such event, any such occurrence in our country against the embassy territories in the future. >> woodruff: today, in washington, secretary of state clinton called the video "disgusting and reprehensible." >> it appears to have a deeply cynical purpose, to denigrate a great religion and to provoke rage. but as i said yesterday, there is no justification, none at all, for responding to...
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clinton can energize and talk back into the obama camp. the former president stumped for the current president in miami saying that obama has made progress under difficult circumstances. >> the test is not whether you think everything's hunky dory. if that were the test, the president would vote against himself. the test is whether he's taking that in the right direction and the answer is yes. >> clinton stumps in orlando today and expect to see him in one of four states in the coming weeks. florida, ohio, new hampshire and nevada. a lot of older white working class swing voters. meanwhile paul ryan is back in wisconsin today before heading to capitol hill tomorrow for a few house votes. his first visit to washington since being tapped as romney's running mate. ryan is on the ballot twice in wisconsin's first congressional district for vice president and re-election of his house seat. so today's day debuting tv ads for his house seat. >> as americans, we deserve a choice, you, not washington, should decide the path we take and the decision
clinton can energize and talk back into the obama camp. the former president stumped for the current president in miami saying that obama has made progress under difficult circumstances. >> the test is not whether you think everything's hunky dory. if that were the test, the president would vote against himself. the test is whether he's taking that in the right direction and the answer is yes. >> clinton stumps in orlando today and expect to see him in one of four states in the...
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the polls look so goo for obama right now that the obama >> hogan, similar question to you because this time on the romney surrogates basically blaming the media. when in doubt, g to that. "wall street journal" writes that mr. romney would do better foed errors than less on the fourth estate's political bias. is romney looking do you think though for any excusnow to explain why he's down in this atrysn talking oc about and the fact that that should be a strong suit and winning on that? >> igt. well, i mean, look. everyone knows that predominant amount of the mediaill vote i mean, t been pretty much proven by every poll and statistic out there. >> what was that? >> white house press corpse votes democratic. most of the white house press rps votesmocric 'shi new. don't whine an it. you know the battlefield you're entering in to. what you have got to go is shift the bat toll the ground you want to battle upon and focus on the economy, focus on the failures of this president and as mentioned before t self flicd wod t ttt bad for mitt romney because it undergirds the stereotype. he needs to
the polls look so goo for obama right now that the obama >> hogan, similar question to you because this time on the romney surrogates basically blaming the media. when in doubt, g to that. "wall street journal" writes that mr. romney would do better foed errors than less on the fourth estate's political bias. is romney looking do you think though for any excusnow to explain why he's down in this atrysn talking oc about and the fact that that should be a strong suit and winning...
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, john mccain, and obama. remember that, four years ago? imagine a bank bailout on the way. everyone pinned that bailout on president public. what if i told you the mastermind was a certain federal reserve bank president who became a treasury secretary. you know tim. meet the former need player who fingers tim. the low down on the meltdown after after this. now we need a little bit more... a little bit more vanilla? this is great! [ male announcer ] at humana, we believe there's never been a better time to share your passions... because the results... are you having fun doing this? yeah. that's a very nice cake! [ male announcer ] well, you can't beat them. [ giggles ] ohh! you got something huh? whoa... [ male announcer ] humana understands the value of spending time together that's a lot of work getting that one in! let's go see the birdies. [ male announcer ] one on one, sharing what you know. let's do it grandpa. that's why humana agents will sit down with you, to listen and understand what's important to
, john mccain, and obama. remember that, four years ago? imagine a bank bailout on the way. everyone pinned that bailout on president public. what if i told you the mastermind was a certain federal reserve bank president who became a treasury secretary. you know tim. meet the former need player who fingers tim. the low down on the meltdown after after this. now we need a little bit more... a little bit more vanilla? this is great! [ male announcer ] at humana, we believe there's never been a...
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president obama, some say, is weighing a deal to cut him loose. i will ask a top accuser and leading lawmaker where's the evidence? "keeping them honest." otos, bue loves the access to tom'sos, bue personal information. oscar's an identity thief who used tom's personal info to buy new teeth and a new car, and stuck tom with the $57,000 bill. [tires squeal] now meet carl who works from the coffee shop and uses the free wi-fi. marie works from there too. she's an identity thief who used a small device to grab his wi-fi signal, then stole enough personal information to hijack and drain his bank accounts. every year, millions of americans learn all it may take to devastate your life is a little personal information in the wrong hands. this is identity theft and no one helps stop it better than lifelock. lifelock offers the most comprehensive identity theft protection, period. ordinary credit monitoring services may take 30 days to alert you. lifelock's 24/7 proactive protection would have alerted tom as soon as they noticed an attack within their netw
president obama, some say, is weighing a deal to cut him loose. i will ask a top accuser and leading lawmaker where's the evidence? "keeping them honest." otos, bue loves the access to tom'sos, bue personal information. oscar's an identity thief who used tom's personal info to buy new teeth and a new car, and stuck tom with the $57,000 bill. [tires squeal] now meet carl who works from the coffee shop and uses the free wi-fi. marie works from there too. she's an identity thief who used...
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>> take barack obama's word for it. he sat in front of medicievev a said i'll be more flexible -- >> look at what romney has proposed, much tougher economic sanctions. much tougher line. also we have the obama administration that is consistently refusing to meet with netanyahu, undermining our relationship with israel, the bullwork of our policy in that region and obama has no relationship there. that's another way that i think a romney administration would be very different in that region and in our relationships with iran. you know, barack obama came in to office somehow implying he was going to have a suance with mahmoud ahmadinejad. focused on the guy with the crappy record that got us into the problems we're in, not the guy who is trying to point out that there's a guy in office who demonstrated weakness and failure. >> alex castell aanos, thank you very much. >>> this image, let's look. this is neil armstrong. there it is. on the moon. do you remember where you were? i do. i was with my dad in front of the tv. we
>> take barack obama's word for it. he sat in front of medicievev a said i'll be more flexible -- >> look at what romney has proposed, much tougher economic sanctions. much tougher line. also we have the obama administration that is consistently refusing to meet with netanyahu, undermining our relationship with israel, the bullwork of our policy in that region and obama has no relationship there. that's another way that i think a romney administration would be very different in that...
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president obama swinging by california against next week. he has spent more time there than in pivotal states like north carolina and pennsylvania, going after money not votes. he has raised 40 million-dollars there. mitt romney, has raised half that much in the golden state. >> despite all bumps, mitt romney is still raising big bucks, from those super paces. 150 million and counts, a lot from the business guys who do not like where this country is going, as bad as swing state polls like for romney now, he would be in deeper doo-doowithout that cash, that is amazing. >> this this economy, mitt romney should be leveraging that, we heard him talk about greece today that is a good thing, the more he can talk about the economy and debt, that is a great thing, however the super paces have kept him in the race. why, we have a long drawn out primary, have you super paces who are framing who president obama was, a like able character, majority of americans like him. that i want to believe in him, they want him to work. but the super paces ares are
president obama swinging by california against next week. he has spent more time there than in pivotal states like north carolina and pennsylvania, going after money not votes. he has raised 40 million-dollars there. mitt romney, has raised half that much in the golden state. >> despite all bumps, mitt romney is still raising big bucks, from those super paces. 150 million and counts, a lot from the business guys who do not like where this country is going, as bad as swing state polls like...
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obama has 201 electoral votes. romney only has 181 state electoral votes so romney really needs to make up those votes. in order to make up those 20, he needs to win the majority of these tossup states. right now, we have him projected to win missouri. also north carolina. >> jennifer: north carolina. so north carolina and missouri. those are the two you have him predicted to win. >> that's right. based on current polling. >> jennifer: are all of the others going clearly for obama? >> more or less. so virginia has been flip-flopping back and forth. >> jennifer: what is it today? >> as of this afternoon with the current "wall street journal" poll, it just flipped back to obama. >> jennifer: new hampshire obama. pennsylvania -- so we're going to do obama obviously because who else would it be? all of the rest, right? that's red and that is blue. so that means that obama has according to your polls your data analytics 332 electoral votes to romney's 206. >> we don't necessarily think it will play out exactly like this
obama has 201 electoral votes. romney only has 181 state electoral votes so romney really needs to make up those votes. in order to make up those 20, he needs to win the majority of these tossup states. right now, we have him projected to win missouri. also north carolina. >> jennifer: north carolina. so north carolina and missouri. those are the two you have him predicted to win. >> that's right. based on current polling. >> jennifer: are all of the others going clearly for...